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 Post subject: Re: SLO
PostPosted: May 28th, '12, 17:03 
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Yes I know Charlie I was just thinking if somehow a water bridge could be incorporated.

Perhaps something similar to the video below. Might run the risk of emtying the fish tank though. Maybe there is way to slightly modify it so that the tank can never empty out totally. I know about KISS. But maybe it would be more simple than having to cut holes in tanks. I dunno - just exploring ideas.

I'm probaly over complicating things though. I started thinking about this because some people want to use aquariums for a CHIFT PIST system but it would be annoying to have to cut a hole in an aquarium.




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 Post subject: Re: SLO
PostPosted: May 28th, '12, 17:23 
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I'm sure I saw on this forum someone had a water bridge incorporated into their system.

I will stick with a SLO - was just exploring ideas :thumbright:


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PostPosted: May 28th, '12, 17:31 
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This guy seems to have a SLO in his aquarium and did not have to cut a hole in the glass by incorporating a water bridge I think.




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PostPosted: May 28th, '12, 17:43 
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Weir siphon overflow might be what I was looking for.


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You need 2 water bodies for a bridge

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PostPosted: May 28th, '12, 17:57 
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Thanks Charlie, also I think the solids would get stuck because of all the extra bends created by a water bridge and the second body of water.

That being said this system seems to be working and I don't think they cut holes in the aquarium:




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PostPosted: May 28th, '12, 18:44 
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I had water bridges in my system or as they are more commonly called on this forum "no holes over flows". They work fine while you are supervising but when you are not there the are prone to failure.

I would not recommend them for a backyard system. With monitoring equipment maybe but not without.

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simple solutions are nearly always best... :thumbright:

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Thank you everyone, I shall go with the regular SLO :wink:


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Hey.. I'm going to add to the SLO discussion and Bump it up..

I have checked a few other people's design's and one thing that keep's on popping up is that they have in their SLO design a horizontal pipe with either Slot's or Hole's drilled..

I actually think that that is a Waste of Pipe.. and defeats the purpose of the SLO design..
Unless you can make enough holes to = the Area of the pipe diameter all you are doing is adding a restriction to the SLO..

Personally I think I Pinched one of F&F SLO design's ..
A Pipe sitting on the bottom of the tank that is cut like shark's teeth..

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My saw tooth SLO..

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My SLO is centralized in the tank.. the Tank is also slightly tapered to the center..


I really think that this design works, added to that is the fact that the action of the fish swimming around down the bottom causes all the fish crud to be forced to it's area of least resistance[The SLO]

How do I know that this works is the fact that when I had to fix the issue of the detached SLO, I lowered the water level in the tank and actually got into the tank..
The bottom of the tank is free of Crud..
the other system I have that had a Slot SLO pipe did not work as good and has been changed out.. for a Saw tooth SLO.. The Bottom of the pond is getting better But I have a major problem with String Algae in that pond..


So seriously I Think "KISS" your SLO design.. Anything else is a Waste...


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The only problem I could see with using the saw tooth SLO in my system is it could be possible for very small SP fingerlings to get sucked up by the larger holes in this design. Otherwise I think I will adopt this method once I grow out my SO a bit.

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I don't entirely agree with your opinion on the horizontal pipe Snow. It is very easy to make enough slits as not to restrict the SLO.

More so, I think u need to worry about TOO MANY holes, as you reduce the ability if any one hole to lift crap from the ground, as they are no longer positioned close together to create a combined drag.

I like the pipe along the bottom in a square tank as it allows you position your suction "nozzle" where ever you want in the fish tank. If you do this using a horizontal pipe at the water surface the pipe would get in you way when doing all sorts of stuff.


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I agree with DrLuke, I like having the horizontal pipe across the bottom, i think it coveres more surface area of the bottom of the tank without needing the fish to stir up solids.

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The Fish naturally Stir the bottom of the Tank just by swimming around..

- The Saw tooth on the bottom of my system is for more advanced Fish...
For smaller fish they will go into the Settlement tank...

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