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PostPosted: Jul 1st, '14, 23:47 
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yes I know, got a 1/4 mile long gravelroad. I like the company Stone, because they get the county stoned :D
Walli had 40lbs bags of Pee gravel on sale for $2,50 so I got 10 of those.
Next thing I have to find is containers for grow beds. I am a little picky concerning the looks of them, because the Wintergarten is my favoured room.



Looking forward to your GB build, I'm imagining you felling a giant redwood and sawing it into planks.



You actually hit it spot on. I still have one half of the pond liner I used for the FT. The bulkhead fittings for water tanks can handle material up to 3/4 inch, plywood, which I will use as the bottom of the growing beds.
As side walls redwood. Line it with pond liner.
3 beds @ 2x3 feet und 8 inches high on a rack over the tank. Still have some very nice and straight 4x4 in storage.

I love redwood, here a little example of a RC sailing boat, 6 feet long, made out of redwood strips,5mm wide and 3mm thick.


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I built the rack for the growing beds. I t will give me 76 x 46 inches room over the FT. That should be plenty for the winter indoor operation. One person can only eat that much.

Since optics is very important, I decided to use juniper, smells good, looks nice, for the growing beds, commenly called cedar. But it is not cedar wood, the tree it comes from is a Juniper.

In some countries they burn a schnaps, highly potent clear liquor out of the fruit of the juniper. I have to look into that, Wachholder Schnaps.

But anyhow, it is a very nice wood and I like to work with it. It has similar to Redwood a high resitance to rot, caused by moisture

I have still 6 very old tress left on the ranch, they are several hundred years old. They survived for some odd reason the drought and than the beatles that followed, that did so much damage.
A 12 inch in diameter tree on my place is over 200 years old, I have 3 4 feet trees.


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first growing bed is done.
Since this is the first try I kept it narrow 15x46x8


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Got 2 beds built, the first one naturally had a liner with a minor leak, thanks murphy and I had to replace that one.
I have tested my drain setup and I think it will put enough air into the FT.
The beds are filled wit pe-gravel and will be toped of with red volcanic rock.

In a week or so I can give the concret inside the tank its final coat, a light blue and than, after that has cured I can start with the fish.

For a third bed I will use some 8 inch sewer pipe I still have lying around.


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The concrete had its 30 days to cure and than I smeared some swimming pool paint all over it. That needed a nother 7 days to cure.
Gave me some time to get going on the fire wood, need around 10 quarts. Them beetles do a number on the forest again.

Than I could finally get some water in the thing. Made a trip to the big town and got me 200 goldfish and dumped them in the troff. I guess I could have more fish, but than the goldies are just for starting up, I would like to have some Trout or other grilleble fish.

Planting the fields.

The smaller field is the Strawberry arena, 8 of those, they have cleaned roots, no dirt.
The larger field has 3 Cauliflower, and three Brokolie , since roots were extremely tightly packet, I stuffed them as they were into the pee gravel.
Than I added 4 different kind of peppers, from bell to some very hot suckers. They are clean no dirt.

Next 3 planters, 4 gallons.

2 have Grapes, those had such a tight root base that I stuffed them as they were in the Gravel, and a Washington Naval Orange, what ever that means, they say they are tasty, if the sucker survives, I will find out.
The Orange was packet very tight, too, so I left it alone.
I used 3/4 inch gravel for those planters.


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Looks good, but I have a feeling your citrus is going to get root bound in no time. See how it goes though.

I'm guessing it gets cold there over winter, but do you have plans for a summer system you can move outside the greenhouse there? Looks like enough room outside for expansion.

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The biggest mistake I have made with trees is not getting all of the dirt off of the roots. Take the time to bare root them. It might be challenging now, but it means survival for the trees. The soil will just become a stinking festering mess otherwise.

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Ronmaggi,
great advice, so I took the planter set up apart, the piping into the planters are not glued.
Pulled the grapes and the orange and cleaned the roots.

I was worried that the vertilizer pellets in the potting soil would kill the fish, but the rott and the pellets, no brainer.

Well the goldies are having anyhow a hard time, probably lost 10 by now.
I increased the flow, turn over of the water, by adding a second pump, which feeds the planters.

I have no idea if it is to many fish or to little plants.
I get a testing kit next week, might get me an idea.

All plants look good.

Probably at one point the system will balance.

Colum, winters get rather refreshing up hear, 7750 feet altitude, minus 30 is far to often possible, 2 month below minus 10 are normal.

I got lots of room, to much ?, 66 acres. I am contemplating commercial.
But first I have to learn and that is what this set up is all about.
By next spring, March, maybe, I might have learned something.

I take all of that easy, at one point, maybe, I doubt it, I know what I am doing, but it just might work.

That's why I need you guys input.


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66 acres!! :shock: a bit of a walk to ask your neighbor for a cup of sugar.

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gnoib, one of the better looking gb's I've seen on here. Nice woodworking skills. You would need a large greenhouse to do anything commercial in that climate. then heating becomes a big expense. I'm sure it's possible, but not as easy as in a warmer climate. Look at Dr. Nate Story's setup in Wyoming...similar climate. Inside/outside during the Summer like someone already suggested.


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Ronmaggi, that is always a problem, that cup of sugar. Sadly no cute Lady - Neighbor around, I would be in top shape.

Coachchris, first I have to get this stuff figured out on a small basis. Like doubling the water flow seams to help the goldies, either I had a bunch of weak once that just keeled over or now they got a good enviroment to live in.

Since the docs told me no more playing around with horses, I have some buildings standing empty, that could be used for a winter operation, indoor and naturally a outdoor for the summer.
We have a outdoor growing season from middle of May to middle of October.
There are several commercial around, within 100 miles.

But one thing after a nother, winter is coming.


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Hanging some lights over the grow beds made a big difference. The plants reacted over night, reaching for the lights. The Strawberry and the pepper have their first flowers.
The grapes and the orange tree do pretty good, too.
The goldies are growing and the keel over rate has considerably slowed down, 1 every other day.

I ordered 25 Tilapia, blue nile, fingerling. For reason unknown the farm doubled the order and now I have 50.
I was not prepared for that and it forces so to speak my hand.
They are a little bit on the stinky side and my house smells like a fishtank.

The bunkhouse has not been used for years and now I have to clean it up, get all the junk out of it and than move the Tilapia into it and start a system for them.


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