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PostPosted: Apr 16th, '15, 09:28 
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Soooo I have a hole now....after looking at all the posts showing people digging I chickened out and brought in the big shovel. No flooding in the hole yet...so that's a win. So now what's next?....


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Here are a couple of other greenhouses that might give you some additional ideas. I think ZsaZsa's has the best layout for a really cold climate but you might find something useful in one of these other threads also.

DecalsbyJT has a lean to greenhouse if you haven't noticed his - http://byap.backyardmagazines.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5259&hilit=thanks%2Fforum&sid=f46114be3aa00cb1f5446f12f5b93857

Jason (jwnova99) has a stand alone solar greenhouse that's more of the super duper model - http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=21897&start=0


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Thanks Scotty! Yes if I had only known JT when I was stationed in NC...ugh! Right on my doorstep. I have been on JT's site but not the other one you posted.
Now Jason's greenhouse; wow! Will be headed back there today to read that one.
I'm reading up on buried sumps (with or without cages), and sump insulation right now. Many people leave sumps open under growbeds which makes me think debris would get in. Others bury them completely and don't have any issues. I'm Not sure if the open is just because they are using cut IBC's or ??


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Glad those helped. Let me know if you have questions. FYI - You might reach either of these guys by posting to their thread and I think Jason is probably a member of the Yahoo simplysolar group (not sure how active he is since I haven't been over there much the past year).


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Evidently if you start to bury a IBC it is Qualifies as a rain dance. So much for our drought conditions.


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If you have the use of an excavator, check out a walapini (I think that is how they are spelt. )

I saw one a few months ago, and though it would be a great idea if i have a North facing hill (or south facing up in the northern hemisphere.

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Yes Walapini are amazing. If and when we relocate to higher ground that will be the next step. The only south facing hill we have is across a creek that floods so if I built there now it's a 2.5 mile drive around to get to it once the water is up. Ok when we have snow and ice but the spring would be a pita... I am digging my lean-to down some but that's more for headroom and a sad "attempt" at some passive solar. The Walapini probably would have been up and running by now though; dig a hole in the hill throw up half a tunnel greenhouse and have at it.... My sister is a die hard Prepper and if I built a Walapini she would probably try to move in, esp once it was producing. Where did you see one?


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Can't remember exactly. I think it was a treehugger article about cheap greenhouses that sparked my interest. Not that it would be any good for me as we live in the inner suburbs of Melbourne.


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So the Fish tank (freezer) and 55 gallon barrels all brought home yesterday. So what does it do all night.....yup rain some more! Freezer needs some slight rust repairs inside so I have something outside of the mud pit to do. The barrels will be for passive solar heat (not growing) so they need painting as well.

The sump is buried and the IBC cut for grow beds. The retaining wall shelf for the heat barrels is in sans wood trim. Now I'm Waiting on the big box store to get in the sheets of Poly Twin wall in 12" lengths and for the rain to stop so I can grab some 16' green treat lumber. Oh and the bulkhead fittings arrived too from Amazon.

I'm thinking of using Flax straw under the greenhouse rock floor for some insulation. It will breakdown in a few years but should make a nice bio mat. Checking online I was amazed at the insulating properties of sheep wool. Any of you use it over the pond? No hazmat issues, FIRE RESISTANT, and doesn't mold and much higher R value than 2" foam board. If you could get the belly wool it's super cheap too. The relatives that raise sheep here have already sold their wool otherwise I'd be trying it in the pony wall base of the greenhouse for sure. Anyhow that's the progress. Will take pics when the rain has stopped.


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So I got lots of little things done today. You can just see the top of the sump on the left side of the hole under the tarp. The freezer is unloaded and has been cleaned and primed ready for paint. The barrels are in progress on the painting and the retaining wall top is screwed on and all sharp tin edges are out of reach. The green treat lumber is arriving tomorrow for framing in and then the floor will be leveled and layered. Oh and most importantly I bit the bullet and climbed IN the sump to do a final cleaning....There has got to be some secret society badge or club for accomplishing that one! :smilebox:
So far almost everything is recycled...IBC's, Barrels, tin roof strip and bent posts and Freezer; so not the prettiest but it works.


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 Post subject: Re: 3B Dreams
PostPosted: May 4th, '15, 22:16 
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Saturday's work. Washed out the IBC's again too but there is no photo.


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 Post subject: Re: 3B Dreams
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So due to rain, the original hole caved in so we had a do-over. Sump moved over a bit but otherwise no changes. 5' Walls are insulated inside with flax and the floor has a foot of flax straw covered by 2' of dirt then a foot of scoria. Barrels in the back are not filled yet but the sump is filled due to photos on here of sumps floating out of the ground....
That's all for now....


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Interesting build Lazy... :thumbright: At least it collapsed on you now rather than further down the track...

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So here is a quick update on the system. We are in Oct and I have tomatoes blooming. All these plants are 'starter' plants put in to start things up. They are not the prettiest and I really feel I need more fish. Right now they are about 40 crick minnows in there. The greenhouse is normally double the outside temps and we are already below freezing at night. There is styrofoam on the north wall under the plastic. The ceiling is Opal and the side walls are clear.
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1. Bed Scoria rock size will be increased ...the current stuff was too soft and broke down so the flow is compromised. That's why you see a channel.
2. The space heater isn't plugged in although you see it in there, this is a passive system to date.
3. Yes I shot that buck.


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Nice achievement reached...picking tomatoes on Christmas Day in ND! It's 8 degrees F outside this morning and 42 in the greenhouse. The fish are not eating so I'm going to have to research some plant food. The water maintains at 40 degrees.
The growbeds have Kale, Brussel sprouts, Toms and Cauliflower. Most of the Cauli went to seed so I pulled them. The chives and Basil are still alive but not really doing anything which is fine.

I have thrown some Maxi grow (powdered) in there but not sure on how often or how much. Any advice?
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