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Ahh, Travis got me hooked as well. I use a flood tank I guess but call it a Header tank.
It does allow for a built in timer to the beds of sorts. Can't think of any disadvantages. Gives added aireation.
I take that back, I guess the only disadvantage is in the way I placed it in my system it doesn't fit the pretty bill and due to space restrictions, design limitations it is a bit of a chore to get to when the beds are full of growth.
Should not take you long to set up a BP system, Travis did a great job on the manual!

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DRD, this time of year is the middle of scorching summer. Talk to us in winter (when we can still get out) and the rain is falling and it's cold and we really don't wanna go out, and our fish are freezing and not eating... (unless we're running trout) and then you can laugh at us when you're enjoying your summer.


Fair enough KP but your winters are so mild in comparison :x
I don't like the extreme heat of summer here either :(

[quote="Gotfish"]Can't think of any disadvantages. [/qoute]

the disadvantage I found was algae in the header/flood tamk tended to clog the siphon line to the couterweight bottle or the algae would interfere with the toilet flapper sealing completely. and that was with the tank covered with shade cloth. But it still is a great system to start with. I also had more issues with roots clogging the growbed drains with Travis' design compared with the bell siphon drains I have in the barrels now or at least so far. If I do have problems with roots now they are much much much easier to deal with.


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I think I was actually hooked here before I found the Barrel Ponics Manual. Travis did do a wonderful job on that manual though which is why I decided to use it to help me with my first system.

I suppose the clogging issues are why Travis added some of the end bits to the Manual about tools and methods for unclogging things and such.

As to the weather Dan, you are probably in quite the harsh area. Able to get bitter cold in the winter and scorching hot in summer. I may mis getting some real winter down here but I can travel to experience snow sports and only have to worry about protecting the tender tropical plants/fish for the rare few freezes we get per year.

Bummer the busy season is about to hit for me for work (but I guess I'll need the money for bigger better systems.) Anyway, I'll keep you all posted about what progress I manage to make between working.

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Well, I wasn't feeling very well today but the cook did some work on the system for me. Mainly cutting the flood tank barrel and building most of the frame.

I spend most of the day suffering from vertigo and needing to be careful whenever I was up and moving around. Very strange as this isn't a symptom I'm very familiar with. If not gone tomorrow I'll have to get to the doctor.

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Sounds like an ear infection

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Yeah ear infection sounds likely - cut em off, added bonus is you wont hear the Wife nagging at you anymore ;-)

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oops :oops: hardly any icons there... had assumed gender was missing too... :oops:

Please substitute kids/husband as necessary ;-)

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Could get confusing with us though since he cooks and cleans and I get into strange construction projects, plumbing, gardening etc. Then again we are both stagehands so gender rolls in this line of work are often out of whack.

Really strange anyway, I'm feeling fine today. I must be fighting some deep infection in the sinuses and ears though. Sometimes hard to tell since I almost never run a fever and the usual symptom is pretty much the same as allergies which I always have too. Keep pumping the vit C, fluids, other good things and check with the Doc I guess.

Anyway, got more done on the Barrel system. Need to pick up one fitting for the second grow bed and then figure out how I'm going to drain back into the main system.

I decided to go ahead and build the full three barrel set up like the barrel ponics manual says except I'm making a few minor changes. The barrel "fish" tank isn't going to have a pump in it, at least for now. I'm gonna stick a fitting into one of the bungs (hence half way up the barrel, and drain down into my current in ground tank.) At the moment I only have the one pump but it seems that it might just be able to handle both systems at least for a little while. That way I don't need to transfer the stuff from the trough immediately. Before summer I'll definitely need a bigger pump as the heat would make such a small trickle useless but it should be ok for a month here.

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Progress on the barrel system hooked to the old hydro system.
Most of the plumbing is hooked up or standing by for hooking (I didn't want to start running water into the new stuff till I let the sealant cure the recomended 48 hrs.

Here are some pics.


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What is that header tank for?


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Well, the very top of that top barrel is a place to grow water plants, set up a floating lettuce raft, or one could even turn into a small grow bed. Under that is what Travis of the Barrel Ponics Manual fame calls the flush tank. It is a header tank equiped with a flush valve so that a small flow pump can handle flooding the two grow beds. Perhaps not necessary since I am planning on doing a loop siphons on the grow beds but I thought for the experience I might as well build the whole thing and leave my options open for experimentation.

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Ah, I thought you had already integrated auto-siphons.


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Nice, but you need to water your grass more.
Now, I'll have to go to the venting corner and complain about folks who use perfectly good beer coolers for fish tanks. The world is just a bit off center!
Well done, how much time was the build TC?

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Yep looks like a barrelponics system! So you're going to overflow the barrelponics system to get new water into the hydro system? Does it ever circulate back to the barrelponics, or does it end up there and never recirculate back to the barrels?

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