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Janet this looks to be a good starting system. The idea of multiple pumps on seperate timers is very good to avoid the overflow issue AND it will allow you to expand, I like what you've come up with. Your plan has helped me figure out how I will expand my grow beds in the future by adding more pumps. The only difference is I will run my pumps from the large sump because my main tank is naturally siphoned and I don't place active pumps in with the fish. My solids get siphoned up through a drain similar to the autosiphon and deposited into the beds. The runoff returns to the large sump where multiple pumps can cycle. Keep up the good work Janet and post pics when you can;)


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Hi MF,
If I had more floorspace, or the ability to sink the sump, I'd do the sump like you have. It sounds really nice. I'm so glad that my ponderings helped solve your problem, too.

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Janet, drill holes in the floor (slightly larger than the pipe size), put sump tank in basement (or in floor space) , run pipes -tooooooo easy :wink:

If temperature is an issue, wrap some insulation around tank - normal aquaponics approach :twisted:

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Ummmm, like 'Ell!!
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hehehe - okay :roll:

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Les...she isn't that obsessed yet. Give it a few months when her growbeds start looking green and her fish start jumping our of the tank and she posts "what's the best chainsaw"?


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If you keep feeding these little titbits of information the subconscious kicks in and it the becomes their idea :cyclopsani: - have you chosen which drill bit sizes yet Janet? :twisted:

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lol, I have a chainsaw you can use, shouldn't take more than a few minutes...:violent1: jobs done :D


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ooooh, chainsaw. Must have chainsaw..... :drunken:

Actually, I've been washing rocks. And washing rocks. And washing rocks. And they are probably still not entirely clean. I brought home 150L of expanded clay and 140L of 3/8inch river rock. Then I had to wash out the back of husband's station wagon. Expanded clay is easy to wash. The river rock has clay coating it. My first big bed is now 1/3 filled with expanded clay, and 1/3 filled with river rock. Only 1/3 to go. There goes my manicure!!! :cry: (If you seriously believe I have a manicure, I have a bridge to sell you.)

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Bye-bye manicure, hello exfoliated hands, (as rough as sand paper :D)


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Not the Sydney Harbour (bridge) - you still trying to sell that back to us - good luck :lol:

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I have the first GB almost filled, and ran the first test of the autosiphon. I need help!!!!

The GB fills in about 10-12 minutes with most of the gravel in place. input is via 3/8in flexible tube.The autosiphon is constructed of 40mm/1.5in PVC and 5/8in flexible tube sealed into the endcap with aquarium sealant. The PVC pieces are a threaded fitting into the pre-drilled stock tub drain, a short length of PVC pipe, an elbow and an endcap.

Problem 1: The sealant doesn't seal. In fact, it peeled right off the PVC and the flexible tubing. I just reinserted the tube for the picture. Does anyone have any better ideas for reducing the diameter of the autosiphon in a water-tight manner? (Especially USA folks who have access to the same products that I do.)

Problem 2: The PVC joints leak. I originally planned to seal them with aquarium sealant when I was satisfied with the design. Obviously problem 1 is making me re-consider this. Any ideas?

Problem 3: The auto-siphon doesn't siphon. It dribbles. Do I need to use a smaller diameter flexible tube?

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silicone should hold the pipes together. But let it set/cure before you start to use it again and make sure that the pipes are clean. wipe them off with alcohol

It might be dribbling because the seal is not air tight or the other end is not under the water surface.

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for testing, if you can get hold of a hot glue gun it would seal it temporarily. It is cheap and easy to apply... but definitely like CB said silicon sealant should be left AT LEAST overnight to cure (12-14 Hrs). Also scratch up the smooth PVC surface with coarse grit sandpaper to give the silicon something to grip to.


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Well, it actually cured for several days. I did have to cut my testing of the siphon short since it was leaking all over the floor. I suppose it could be the leaking that was causing as much trouble as anything. I will try roughing the surfaces, cleaning with alcohol, and re-sealing with the silicon with at least 12 hour cure. When I re-test, I will make sure that the lower end is under the surface of the fish tub. Any other suggestions?

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