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Janet I would look into property that has been foreclosed on. One of the main reasons we moved out of Chicago down here to Alabama was to take advantage of the low low prices down here.

With little or no work at all we where able to find a 1 acre plot with a 3 bed house, seperate garage, small green house and a koi pond. Forclosure price was 45,000$. I know that some do not like to take advanatge of others demise, but one does what one has to do.

Shawn

By most places, I meant geographic %-wise, not population concentration-wise, and we're just talking about raw-land here, no structures, no services.

The value of land is dependant on what you can produce on it. This land is volcanic topsoil. Spit on it and something will grow. Our fence post sprout believe it or not. All year things grow so you can easily produce 3 to 4 times more than up north.

I noticed on one thread someone was talking about growing Paw Paws for example. (Papaya) - we don't plant them, they just sprout up from the birds - fruit in 6 to 8 months - and grew to 2 stories high.

We dug a trench about 300 meters long with a backhoe once - we found one rock in the entire trench. I am originally from land where you can't dig 1 foot without hitting a rock.

Heh, it supports my idea that people should only live in places they can survive year round naked

Only if they are good looking - which would not include me!

JP if you build new, try to use a metal roof so's you can capture rainwater.

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Love the idea of metal roofs. They last longer, too. Or we might look at green roofs.

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as in grass with the drainage mechanism, that was my thought for city living...then the polutants would be filtered out.

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Yes - we like them too. And, rain on a metal roof is so nice to fall to sleep to!

Have you seen those solar shingles? look like regular asphalt shingles but produce electricity. Not sure what they make them out of, but if it is non-toxic you could still collect the rainwater for use without worry. They would be very expensive I bet.

For the last 4 weeks I have been wondering if I could generate electricity off a gutter system - yeah, we have had that much rain! But, today there is this weird yellow thing in the sky, we aren't sure, but we seem to remember from ages past...

[I get this way every year right about now, during change over, it normally rains for 3 to 4 weeks - not really bad since it isn't cold, but we do get pretty soggy...]

We believe that PA is starting to offer rebates on solar panels, so solar shingles might not be as expensive as one would think. All things to consider.

We're meeting tomorrow night to discuss paths forward on land.

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Janet,
The one thing I have noticed with government rebates on anything is that the price of the item always rises, by at least the amount of the rebate.
In Australia solar panels were costing around $7 per Wp for large panels, the government provided a rebate and the price of the panels went to around $11 per Wp.
The total system cost to the consumer has not changed (possibly a little higher due to GST + 10% on everything)

just look at LPG after the conversion rebate.................

its basically costing people $400 to convert their car to LPG............

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I always wondered why we don't use LNG we are selling it to china for less than a cent a ltr, LPG retails for 65c ltr (down here any way)...
If I am off the pace someone please let me know!!

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