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PostPosted: Oct 23rd, '09, 07:43 
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Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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OK, more thoughts please.
I have removed as mentioned earlier, the two beaten up quail.
I had thought to remove the last girl, as she appeares to have a gamy leg, it's always out in front of her, and she appears to hobble.

These last 2 days have been sunny and warmish.

But as soon as I removed the 2 quail, I notice 2 eggs, much larger than the last one laid.

Is this due to the heat, or because I have a "breeding pair" somebody did say the birds can pair off, and get posessive, but I didn't believe them.

So, is it a result of the balmier temps, or the removal of competition?

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PostPosted: Oct 23rd, '09, 10:20 
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In one of my cages Ive got one male and one female , the female stops laying whenever I try to put more females in there and they gang up on any new ones , I assume those two are pretty much paired up

in another cage Ive got 1 male 3 females , add and take females all the time with no problem

3rd cage has 2 and 2 with no problems at all , but theyre very dark brown , almost black ones and Ive found them to be the least aggressive of all ( fatter too )


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PostPosted: Oct 23rd, '09, 11:58 
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the femals can be very agresive and have been knowen to kill the mals!


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PostPosted: Oct 23rd, '09, 12:05 
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hmmm I hope it's not 2 females I have left then ;-) I want to see if these 2 eggs will hatch.

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I got to be sure to remember to latch the door to the quail cage. Most of my white quail got out and were brutalized by the chickens. Not dead but a few were tore up pretty bad. Those chickens are so tame and dosil until a quail ends up loose in their pen and then they become birds of prey! :shock: No eggs as of yet from the last hatching. I think it's the seasonal cold fronts coming thru holding off egg production.

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PostPosted: Nov 3rd, '09, 16:25 
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well my 2 eggs became 6, one every day.
then I had a drought until yesterday. (about 5 days) then I got another... weird though the peckling only covered half the egg.
I left it in there, as they're a pair, just to see if she'd brood.
Today I found it cracked. :-( I wonder why that happened.

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PostPosted: Nov 3rd, '09, 19:33 
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I never thought to let them brood as I was always told they don't set them. I also didn't observe any nesting but without nesting materials I guess well duh. :lol: But they just hap hazardly laid eggs anywhere they were standing. You could give her a little place for a nest box and materials and see if it helps. In nature they like to hide under bushes.

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PostPosted: Nov 3rd, '09, 20:41 
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From what I have read they're not nest builders, but will make a 'hole in their bedding' which in my case is quail feathers and other natural detritus. She has been laying in exactly the same spot every time, since the other girls were removed. Before the girls were removed, they laid haphazardly.
I'm thinking due to the nasty pecking order, either a lot or only a pair may be kept together. A few will cause problems.
When in pairs perhaps they brood more.

I'm also confused. I posted this pic earlier:
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What kind of quail are these? and more importantly, what is their incubation period?
I had thought they were button quail from descriptions, but I saw a button the other day and they are TINY! Mine are about 6 times the size of a button.
I'm thinking brown coturnix or something?
It's important because different quail can have different gestations, varying by as much as 5 days, and I'm meant to stop turning 3 days prior to an unknown hatch date.

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PostPosted: Nov 3rd, '09, 21:09 
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Theyre Coturnix . most of my males look exactly like that blonde / white one , and I have one female like the top right one

stop turning on day 14 and up the humidity as far as I know , its seemed to work for me


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PostPosted: Nov 3rd, '09, 21:15 
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Any tips on what to up the humidity to? And what from? I have a site that says 60% rh before day 14, but that's bloody hard to maintain. Did I read it wrong perhaps?

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they are what we call Japanese Quail or I have heard them referred to as Japanese table quail.

if you can get hold of a silky bantam hen or an Old English Game bantam they both make great brooders for incubating and raising those Quail.


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they are japanese quail - Coturnix coturnix , also known as Eurpoean quail , common quail , pharoah quail , noisy b@stard quail ...

My silkies refuse to sit on quail eggs and beat quail up

I had no idea what my humidity was during incubation and just added more water into my incubator when I stopped turning , but from what Ive read its supposed to be 50% up to 70% when turning stops

leave them in for 12 hours after hatching to dry off and fluff up . dont help any out of the shells or they'll end up dying or being runts


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they are japanese quail - Coturnix coturnix , also known as Eurpoean quail , common quail , pharoah quail , noisy b@stard quail ...

My silkies refuse to sit on quail eggs and beat quail up

I had no idea what my humidity was during incubation and just added more water into my incubator when I stopped turning , but from what Ive read its supposed to be 50% up to 70% when turning stops

leave them in for 12 hours after hatching to dry off and fluff up . dont help any out of the shells or they'll end up dying or being runts


My understanding also. They are coturnix quail. Although they mix the browns are a little different than the Golden I've heard the Golden ones called Golden Pharoah quail and the browns just coturnix. Even the whites are corturnix. The native American bobwhite breeds are much different. Some grow much larger but are also much slower to grow to maturity and require higher protein food. They are also darker flesh and gamier tasting. Most people I know raise them for hunting clubs and launch them from quail launchers to shoot. If they aren't shot they usually don't know how to survive in the wild and preditors will get most of them. But the bobwhites are good parents. They even do the broken wing trick when preditors come around the nest.
Kuda, I'm glad to hear yours are making a nest of sorts

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Quail launchers ?!
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