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PostPosted: May 10th, '13, 14:32 
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Oregon isn't the only place having issues dealing with water rights. It's becoming a big issue particularly in places where meager rainfall is being collected upriver from State utilities.

But there is a bit of a furphy being used here - trapping water on your property doesn't deprive anyone of water forever - it adds a pause until the tanks are filled, which might be an issue if thousands all opened their tanks for filling at the same time, but even there, the water in use will mostly flow back into the system after use by the collectors.

And the extra green areas will attract more rain, maybe helping turn Colorado (one of the States having issues about collection) back into the food bowl it once was.

Rather than battle the citizens with short-sighted ownership laws, they might do better to insist anyone collecting rain water must also cleanse it before returning it to the system - which could be as simple as using it on gardens or perhaps putting in basic filter systems to turn grey water into good water again.


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In a way you're right, EB. One should go outside and do something one enjoys. The article is a bit childish indeed and has an amateurish aura. The issue is though, that the guy should be allowed to catch rainwater on his own property. No government should be allowed to have laws to prevent that. It's about free access to basic natural needs as water, food, sunlight, air. So there I'm afraid you missed the essence of the story.

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There has to be some control over water supplies and what falls on and flows through a persons property, otherwise people collect and dam everything and there's no water for those downstream.

Classic example Bangladesh, their water supplies have come from the large rivers that flow through their country, the whole country is basically a river delta. But India has been building huge dams on the rivers, diverting the flows for their own uses. Not only are they diverting the flows in the dry season, but in monsoon season when the dams are full, they release massive quantities of water exacerbating the standard monsoonal floods in Bangladesh..

China is now adding to the problems by damming the water before they even flow into India, I think India are starting to understand Bangladesh's plight..

But back to him... I think it has little to do with "battling a citizen", once again, depends what reports you read. He built 20 foot dams without permits and now refuses to release the water in the dry season when a court ordered it, it's been going on for 11 years.

Trapping the water on your property DOES deprive everyone downstream, the water then evaporates and gets held, seeps into the ground water table, only in times of plentiful rain would there be flow through, and only after it has topped up the dam.

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i save all my seeds, swap with my mates, and use no pestisides around the home ect. I purchase all my seeds from diggers seeds and they are open pollenated. Everyone who has a garden should be extending the raised middle finger to monsanto and their ilk on this.


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Guess I wont be off-loading any of my bushel to you then Mantis.... :D


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We can become Thai basil seed barons and rule the world :D

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And abolish all other pretend basils.... :wink:


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Newspapers tend to say a lot of things.
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Oh God.... we'll have a rash of neo-con, conspiracist, Andrew Boltish.. phoney baloney crow sheets.... :roll:


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Personally, i wish the government would take away all my civil rights. I dont like thinking too hard...


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I was going to think about it... but my local government member told me not to... :D


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I simply decided not to drop myself to your poor comedic level Ryan... :-P

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