I learnt a lot today

RupertofOZ

The "australian" chapter page may have been removed due to lack of membership...

By the "by-laws"... a chapter is supposed to have a Chairman, Secretary and Treasurer....

There was initially a "Chapter-At-Large".... covering the UK & Europe.... but Charlie Price resigned... and that chapter is also no longer listed on the website...

In reality...the Aquaponics Assocaiation... appears to be an aquaponics association of the US.... probably due to lack of interest, and/or membership elsewhere around the world...

mantis

We dont need an association, we have this site

Stuart Chignell

We are an association.

Charlie

an aquassociation..

Zubin

I guess BS can get people to some high places. At least this guy has planted at least one seed, and has felt a fishy water, even if he is full of crap, he has done something.
Now, what about Obama who had no experience, and as we speak; he is still in our White House. Now that is something.

NOW; If this does not make you laugh, I do not know what will!!!

keith

listening to a little to much el rushbo zubin?

Stuart Chignell

Not that I care not that I want to get involved but wasn't he a governor or something. Even if he wasn't lack of experience is hardly a fair criticism, who exactly do you employ to run a country with previous experience? Your constitution is written so that when you actually find a good one (who also didn't have experience for their first term) you get rid of them after only 8 years.

keith

he wasn't a governor, he did serve in the senate...but.. shhhhhh.. some people say he's half black!

PLJ

It is easy to knock people who clamber to the top positions in our respective countries. Our own leader, Prime Minister Julia Gillard, and her offsider treasurer Wayne Swan, cop an inordinate amount of flack and derision yet when Australia's performance is measured on a world scale it comes out on top as the economically best performing developed nation. When we get a previous PM from the opposing party, such as Malcolm Fraser, speaking out and saying that our present leaders are doing very well for us, perhaps we should take a moment to consider the bigger picture. We are relatively very well off, despite all of the often petty grumblings.
I don't see it as too much different in the USA. Everyone is happy to bag the incumbent president, forgetting that the whole world is going through tough times and, in all likelihood, no-one else would be performing much better and possibly a lot worse.
We are fortunate that we live in countries where we are able to openly abuse our leaders, even if they don't deserve it, and not suffer the potentially dire consequences that such actions would incur in many other countries. I tell myself that, even if I don't agree with a particular decision made at the top level, as long as the PM has the best interests of humanity and our nation at heart, I can ask no more.

(I never talk about politics, let alone write about it. What is this fishy forum doing to me?)

Zubin

Being an immigrant to USA for about 40 years now, and also have traveled to too many countries and also being a retired US Army soldier, I do apperciate freedom, that is the reason I paid the price and went and did what I had to in order to protect our constitution.

1. Track record should mean something.
2. Individual responsibilities should mean something.
3. Accepting responsibility for own actions; and the result of own's action should mean something.
4. Earning it, not leaching of off those who work harder and pay the price should mean something.

I am from the side that believes that "THE RIGHT TO LIFE SHOULD BE RESPECTED"! There is no gray area here. I personaly have paid the price for everything I have got. Have made many many mistakes, and have paid for them over and over. I did not blame others for my mistakes and erros, or lake of efforts.
I had a discusion with three liberal professors at University of North Carolina last year or so. They were telling me they are pro choice (to me they are pro death, there is no choice, it is just a point to confuse the idiots; I am pro life)
Anyway, they said the reason they are pro DEATH is because the young lady who do a mistake or whatever, and if she keeps the child, it will hurt her future and she is not going to do good for herself and so and so and so, the same old BS that they come up with. I told them this story,
I said, I was driving my truck, and had a passanger. Due to my actions , I went fast and got into an accident that was of my own doing/fault. The policeman came by and after his investigation, started to write a ticket.
I ask him please Mr. policeman, give the ticket to the passagnger, because if you give it to me, I have to go to court, pay penalty, my insurance will go up, and it will hurt my life. And after few minutes of discussions, my passanger got the ticket.
Thay said, that is not right. I said; of course that is not right, the same goes for the right to DEATH. They all shut up and did not say anything else after that.

The bad thing is, the free loader side here, they talk about freedom of speach, and all other freedoms, but they do not get into a discussion, because they have no substance. It is all feeling.
So, after all said and done, track record says something about each of us. In case of Obama, he has never ever earned an honest productive buck in his entire life.

There are producers, and users in each comminities. Some services are needed; therefore producers are willing to pay tax to get those services provided; like Armed forces, firemen, policemen, teachers.

And yes, at the present time, most of politicians (both side) are for themselves. And that is the citizens own fault. In a republic, in order for it to work, people have to be virtuous, responsible, involved, and seakers. And the sad story today in USA is; the percentage of virtuous citizens is very low.

RupertofOZ

keith wrote:

he wasn't a governor, he did serve in the senate...but.. shhhhhh.. some people say he's half black!

So... he's have white as well... which part do you have a problem with??

PLJ

RupertofOZ wrote:

So... he's have white as well... which part do you have a problem with??

Good question, RupertofOZ. Very poignant.

keith

exactly my point rup...i've heard.. "i'm not racist, he's half white!"

that's such a straw man zubin.. (as far as "pro-death") - if the woman's health was in danger, or she was the victim of a crime, she does not have the freedom to decide for herself? ohhhhh.. i see.. freedom is when people do what you deem "vituous"...

i served my country (in the navy) as well..and made plenty of mistakes, and paid for them..
freedom is not understood in this country.. nor is personal responsibilty

Zubin

All liberals say the same thing.
Do not mix mother's health with the facts. Doctors are there to do their job. And not all pregnancies are considered rape!

And if one serves for a few years for whatever reason, does not make that person a Constitutionalist patriot, or a responsible citizen. Seen many who were there for GI Bill or other benefits. Some try to fool others and might be able to do it. But one never ever can fool God. You got to deal with it!

This is fun to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h8O7V-W ... e=youtu.be

And I do like these too.
THE FENCE TEST, THINK ABOUT THIS, IT IS TRUE.
You can't get any more accurate than this, and it can be extrapolated to many other topics!

Which side of the fence?

If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

If a Conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a Conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a Liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned or regulated for everyone.

If a Conservative is homosexual, he leads his life.
If a Liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a Conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
If a Liberal is down and out, he wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a Conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
if a Liberal doesn't like a talk show host, he demands that he/she be taken off the air.

If a Conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
If a Liberal is a non-believer, he wants any mention of God and religion silenced.

If a Conservative needs health care, he shops for it, or finds a job that provides it.
If a Liberal needs health care, he demands that the rest of us provide it.

If a Conservative reads this, he'll share it so his friends can reflect on it.
If a Liberal gets it, he will delete it because he's "offended".

RupertofOZ

What a load of bullocks... you obviously don't understand what it really is...to be either a conservative... or a liberal...

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